SportsDataHub: Interactive Football Data for Avid Sports Fans and Fantasy Players

Sports Data Hub

Sports Data Hub

Website: SportsDataHub

Interview With: Kevin Goodfellow

Is there is more then one founder? If so, who are they?:

It’s just me.

What is your background and qualifications?:

During the week I’m a Data Warehousing consultant for Fortune 500 level companies. During the weekend I’m a 12 year fantasy football fanatic bulldozing my fellow league owners. In a previous life, I designed commercial aircraft mechanical/hydraulic systems for Boeing.

What does your website do?

Sports Data Hub provides interactive football data for avid sports fans and fantasy players.  Our point and click visualization tools allow fans to analyze football data the way their minds work – forward, backward, and sideways….in real time.  We make football data analysis easy, convenient, fun, flexible, and more productive.

How do you generate revenue? If through ads, what ad network do you use?

We have a combined revenue model: Ads, Subscriptions, and B2B white labeling of our tools. Fantasy Sports Ventures is our ad network.

How have your marketed your site?

As a start up we have a very small budget, so we have to spend our marketing money wisely. We have focused primarily on native search rankings, since they are relatively inexpensive to attain and can be grown if you have the time and knowledge. Our alpha site was up for a year prior to our beta launch for just this purpose and has resulted in our site being highly ranked in related search terms.  We are also including a small amount of print advertising in fantasy related publications, online banner ads, e-mail advertising, and some direct marketing near NFL events. Our schwag has been popular, with Post-it notes and fliers the size of a business card instead of something bulky.

Funding: Self funded, Angel Investment, or Venture Capital?:

To date we are self funded with team members, friends, and family investments.

Are You currently looking for funding?:

Yes. Depending on our success, we will be looking for a growth sized investment near the end of the year. This investment would be to grow faster and bigger than we could do on our own.

What type(s) of technology do you use?:

Top Secret.  However, we are big supporters of open source and without the open source community this concept would have been impossible. In fact, this concept would not have been possible just last year….it is that bleeding edge.

What is your favorite feature on your website?:

I like our analysis tools, they are the heart and soul of our site. I blow my own mind every time I use them.

Any Bold Predictions for Sports and Technology in the future?:

I think what we are doing at SportsDataHub.com is opening a new door of high technology tools for the sports consumer. Anything to get an edge…

Football Outsiders: Football Statistics from Outside the Box

Website: www.footballoutsiders.com

Interview with: Aaron Schatz

When did you start Football Outsiders?

I started messing around with football stats in December 2002, and we launched the site at the end of July 2003

What made you start it?

Well, I had been working on these advanced football stats, because I was a Bill James fan and a football fan and there really wasn’t much out there. I shopped my first couple articles to some connections I had through my previous job, people at ESPN and FOX were sort of interested, but felt it was content for a very small niche. So I decided I would just launch my own site and try to publicize things myself.

What is your background?

I have an odd background, I’ve had a ton of different careers — not just jobs, but career paths. I have a BA in Economics from Brown. I went into the radio business for a while, where I was a DJ and music director at an alternative station in Daytona Beach, Florida. When I left radio, I worked as a music journalist for a while, then a market research analysis. Finally in 2000, I got a gig writing a column called the “Lycos 50,” which talked about what people were searching for online — Lycos uses it for external PR and for internal market research. I started FO as a side project while I was working for Lycos.

Have you been able to turn Football Outsiders into a full time career?

Yes. I was laid off by the rapidly shrinking Lycos in February 2004, and I started to look for other jobs in the Internet search world, but it became clear after a while that I had made enough connections with FO that something was bound to happen. My first couple freelance deals didn’t come through until the season was about to start, but that was enough money for me to go off unemployment, and FO has been my career ever since.

The statistics you have on your website are amazing.  How many hours do you work a day?

Oh, I don’t know, ten hours maybe? What’s strange is that very little of what I do these days involves new research. During the season, I am too busy writing the articles that make me my living, and editing everyone else’s articles on FO, running the business end, dealing with advertisers, and answering e-mails. When I started doing this, I used to create the stats with a lot of manual cut and paste but at this point people have written programs for me that compile the numbers a lot faster. With the season almost over, the next month or two I’ll be doing new research and tweaking numbers, then we write the book, Pro
Football Prospectus 2008.

What was your tipping point?  What put you on the map?

Gregg Easterbrook was fired by ESPN in November 2003, because of something he wrote at his New Republic blog that was seen by some people as anti-semitic (and was also anti-Disney, which may be a bigger no-no for the WWL). I knew that my site appealed to the kind of intellectual football fans who read his column, so I used it to my advantage by starting a contest where our readers would “write Gregg’s column for him.” This was when the political blogosphere was really exploding, so I used this hook to get publicity from political writers like Glenn Reynolds who never would write about a football stats site
otherwise. Easterbrook eventually got wind of the contest, thought it was hilarious, and he actually wrote his TMQ column for FO for two weeks — for free — until he signed a new deal to write for NFL.com.

What type of technology do you use?

Wordpress

What ad network(s) do you use?

We use a combination of AdBrite and ContextWeb, plus Vibrant Media textlinks. We’re also on blogads, although I must admit to being disappointed, the amount of ads we sell through them has really dwindled this year.

How much money do you make off your site monthly?

Maybe $2,000? A little more? I don’t make a living off the site. The site makes me and my writers famous, and we make our money off our outside writing gigs — and then there’s the hefty chunk that comes in from selling fantasy football projections each August.

What are some of your favorite sports websites and what are some of your least favorite websites?

Well, Baseball Prospectus was one of the reasons I started doing this, I still read it every day, and I am proud that I’m now friends and business partners with those guys. Doug Drinen was another one of my big influences, the new Pro-Football-Reference is amazing and Drinen has a lot of interesting stat analysis ideas on the P-F-R blog. Any
self-respecting sports fan who lives in Boston should read Boston Sports Media Watch every day. I read Pro Football Talk, like everyone else. I like Deadspin, although I must admit that most of the blogs that have been stylistically inspired by Deadspin get too snarky for me. At a certain point, you start running out of interesting ways to make fun of people, and it just gets repetitive and mean-spirited.

And everybody wants to criticize ESPN, but the thing is, that site is so huge and encompasses so many things that you are bound to find both material you love and material (and style) that drives you insane. I still enjoy Bill Simmons, I read Matt Mosley’s Hashmarks, Pasquarelli’s Friday columns. I’m a baseball fan, I like Gammons and Stark and Neyer. I have a ton of respect for NBA analyst John Hollinger, although I don’t read him that often — frankly, it’s hardenough for me to follow a second sport now that I write about football for a living. No way I could follow a third sport.

Any bold predictions for the future of sports on the internet?

I don’t know. In many ways the technology drives changes in what possibilities there are for content, and I have no clue what
technologies will change in the next ten years. One thing I know is that the barriers for entry are so low on the Internet that there will always be new sites popping up, new ideas for sites, new talent appearing. Those new writers will complain that the last generation of Internet writers were sellouts, and this will last for a couple years, and then the best of those writers will sell out too, and more new sites will start, accusing those writers of selling out, and so on. Endless cycle.

STN’s Take:

For anyone who is heavily into reading between the lines when it comes to football statistics, Football Outsiders is a must visit.  We don’t really have the time to keep up with all their new stat terminology but we definitely pay for their fantasy football projections on a yearly basis.  Anyone that takes that much time to look at football stats should be better at predicting them then the average guy writing a column or some fantasy football magazine.

Aaron seems to to a great job at monetizing his traffic though we think a contextual ad at the end of each of his posts could bring in some solid cash for him.  Our only suggestion would be to organize his site a bit better.  When we go to his site, things seem to be all over the place.  We would like to see a little more organization. The top features seem to interrupt his main page and the upper right sections of “FO goes mainstream” and “Extra Points” kind of stick out.  If he moved his “Top Features” to the upper right and then made his right sidebar flow evenly, the main page would be much easier to read.

Sports-Reference: All the statistics one could ever want

Websites: www.baseball-reference.com, www.pro-football-reference.com, www.basketball-reference.com

Interview with: Sean Forman

What is your background?

I was a math and computer science professor at Saint Joseph’s University for six years before starting to doing the site full-time in May of 2006.

What made you want to start Baseball Reference?

It was spring of 2000, mainly I just wanted an online baseball encyclopedia and there were none out there.

What does your website do?

We present statistics for pro football, baseball and basketball. We have complete stats for all players and teams in league history and also scores for every game played in league history. We’ve recently started updating the sites daily and have expanded the offering (splits, game logs, etc) dramatically in the last year.

When did you launch?

Baseball and Football in 2000 and Basketball in 2004.

How have you built your community?

Organic growth. We do pretty well in search engine rankings, so we get a lot of traffic from people out looking for player and team stats.

What types of marketing do you utilize?

Mostly word of mouth. I’ve promoted our subscription feature the Play Index via google adwords, but beyond that it is from people liking our site and telling others.

Do you have any revenue streams besides advertisement? Who is your ad provider?

We sell ads through Federated Media and also have our own page sponsorship system for users who are big fans of teams and players. Right now those are probably 50-50 for us in terms of revenue.

Beyond that we have a subscription service on the baseball site that allows you to do things like get a list of every double hit by Vlad Guerrero or a list of every 10-SO game by Pedro Martinez.

Funding: Self funded, Angel Investment, or Venture Capital?

We are primarily self funded and have brought in one outside investor who has a lot of experience in the baseball stats industry.

Are you looking for more funding?

No.

What is your favorite feature on your site?

The Play Index brings the data that only groups like Elias had before right to your fingertips. Want to know how many 2-out hits Derek Jeter had against the Red Sox, you can find that in seconds with the P.I.’s event finders.

Any bold predictions for sports and technology in the future?

We’ll eventually have box scores for every game in major league history from 1871 to the present.

STN’s Take:

We consider the Sports-Reference’s sites the Craigs List of Sports Websites. Extraordinarily successful, very simple design. Sean was pretty much bound to be successful when he embarked on baseball reference. There was nothing like baseball reference on the web so he created it for himself and other people flocked. We are sure over the years the simple design with no pictures has helped Sean create his site while keeping his costs low.

We do think it may be time for a redesign though. Not a big one. We like the idea of no images and a very quick and easy to load page but we don’t like the information overload on the front page. We would like to see the left sidebar be smaller and a bit simpler. Providing the links without descriptions would be just fine. Also, I am not sure why the baseball standings are on the front page. No one is checking baseball standings right now. Sean may be better off feeding his blog into there or promoting some new type of content. Also, even though they pretty much come up very high on every search engine for every baseball player, we would like to see their pages indexed like this: http://www.baseball-reference.com/barry-bonds instead of like this http://www.baseball-reference.com/b/bondsba01.shtml. They may be able to rank ahead of Wikipedia if they made this move.